Sept. 24, 2026
The Good Girl Rules You’re Allowed to Break
So many women were taught to be nice, helpful, agreeable and easy to work with. Those qualities aren’t bad—but they become a problem when they keep us quiet, overextended or afraid to disappoint anyone.
In this Quick Lift, Betsy recaps her conversation with Michelle Minnikin about “Good Girl” conditioning, why people may resist when we begin to change, and how to set boundaries without believing we’ve become cold, difficult or selfish.
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Welcome to Allowed and Lifted Quick Lift, where
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we take the biggest ideas from our conversations
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and turn them into something you can use today.
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In my conversation with Michelle Minikin, we
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talked about good girl conditioning. And I want
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to start there because I think that phrase can
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be very easily misunderstood. When Michelle talks
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about good girl, she is not describing a personality
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type. She's talking about conditioning. It is
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the set of roles so many women absorb over time
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about how we're supposed to behave if we want
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to be liked, accepted, successful, respected,
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or even just easy to be around. Be nice. Be useful.
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Be agreeable. Don't take up too much space. Don't
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disappoint people. Don't be difficult, prove
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yourself, and keep everyone comfortable. And
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what makes this so sneaky is that a lot of those
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behaviors are rewarded, especially at work. You're
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dependable, you're helpful, you anticipate what
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people need. You step in, you fix things, you
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keep them moving, and you're the one everyone
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knows they can count on. Sound familiar? Look,
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none of these are bad qualities. The problem
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is when you stop realizing you have a choice.
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You start making decisions based less on what
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you actually want or need and more on what will
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keep everyone else happy with you. And that's
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really the point of Michelle's work. This isn't
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about women needing to become tougher or more
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confident or learning how to say no more often.
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It's about recognizing the rules that we have
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internalized, rebuilding self -trust and starting
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to make choices based on what is actually true
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for us. So there were three big takeaways for
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me from this conversation, and each one has something
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very specific you can do with it. Key takeaway
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number one, being capable can quietly turn into
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being endlessly useful. This connected immediately
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for me, for my conversation with Sherlyn Sklenicki
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about competence and how it can become a liability.
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The more you prove you can handle it, the more
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people hand you. And Michelle added another layer
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to that. Sometimes we keep accepting all of it
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because being useful has become tied to how we
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see our own value. I actually learned a version
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of this pretty early in my career. I worked for
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a woman I really admired and she was incredibly
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capable, worked really hard, and was absolutely
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the person who just got shit done. And because
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of that, people gave her more and more and more.
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And she became the person everybody knew would
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just handle it. At one point, ironically, she
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gave me a book with a title along the lines of,
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why good girls don't get ahead, but gutsy girls
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do. And I remember that sticking with me, you
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know, 20 some years later. Because even back
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then, I could see the difference between being
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valuable because you're strategic, trusted, and
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willing to speak up, and being valuable because
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everybody knows you will quietly pick up whatever
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gets dropped on you. Those two are not the same
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thing. And I think a lot of us fall into this
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without even realizing it. We like being dependable.
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We like being needed. And we like being the one
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who can handle it. But at some point, you have
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to ask whether you are choosing the work or whether
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the work just keeps choosing you because everybody
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knows you'll say yes. So here's your action item.
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The next time something lands on your plate,
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pause before you grab it. Ask yourself, am I
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actually the right person to own this or am I
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just the person everyone knows who will handle
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it? and then go one step further. Do I actually
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want to say yes here or am I worried about what
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saying no will mean about me? You can absolutely
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still say yes, but now it's a choice instead
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of just conditioning running quietly in the background.
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Key takeaway number two, your villain error just
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may be the moment you stop performing that old
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role. This is probably my favorite part of the
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whole conversation. Michelle talks about how
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for a lot of women, being disliked can feel like
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an emergency. And I think that shows up in really
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normal ways. You say no and then spend five minutes
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explaining why. You make a decision and you immediately
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start wondering how everyone is going to feel
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about it. Someone seems annoyed with you and
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now you're replaying the conversation wondering
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if you should clarify, apologize, soften it,
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or just somehow fix it. I had to learn this as
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my own career guru. Early in my career, I really
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did think that if I worked hard, tried to do
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the right thing, and treated people well, everybody
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would pretty much see me as sunshine and roses.
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And then you start leading more people and making
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harder decisions, and you realize, oh shit, not
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everyone is going to like me. Not everyone's
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going to even agree with me. And sometimes somebody
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can genuinely think I'm the bad guy, even when
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I believe I made the right decision. That was
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a big shift for me. At some point, I had to stop
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using, does everybody like this, as the test
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for whether I was leading well. And that's why
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Michelle's villain -era language landed so much
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for me. Sometimes becoming the villain in someone
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else's story simply means you stopped absorbing
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the cost of keeping them comfortable. Think about
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that. You say no, and now you're difficult. You
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stop doing something that was never really yours
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to carry and now you're not a team player. You
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stop explaining yourself over and over and now
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somebody thinks you're cold. You leave something
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that isn't working for you anymore and someone
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gets to decide you're selfish. You don't get
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to control everybody else's story about you.
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And this is also where Michelle's talk about
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becoming unfuck with a bull, which I love, because
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she doesn't mean being cold or not caring what
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anybody thinks. It's almost the opposite. You
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can care what someone thinks. You can listen
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and you can take feedback and you can admit when
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you got something wrong. But you are grounded
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enough in yourself that somebody else being unhappy
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with you does not automatically send you into
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fix it mode. I love that. So here's your action
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item. The next time you say no, set a boundary
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or make a decision somebody doesn't love, pay
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attention to what happens right after. Before
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you start over explaining or trying to make them
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feel better, just give it a minute. Ask yourself,
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did I actually do something I need to fix or
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am I just uncomfortable because they're uncomfortable?
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If you got it wrong, own it. It's gonna happen.
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But if you didn't, let that discomfort sit there
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for a little while without immediately trying
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to make it disappear. That's part of rebuilding
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self -trust. Key takeaway number three, nobody
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necessarily wants you to change. This was another
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part of Michelle's work that I thought was really
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important because we talk a lot about doing the
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work on ourselves. Set the boundary, stop people
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-pleasing, speak up. Stop saying yes to everything.
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Well, that's great, right? But then you actually
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change, and people around you may not be thrilled
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about it. Michelle uses the crab bucket analogy.
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One crab can climb out of a bucket pretty easily.
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Put a bunch of crabs in there, and when one starts
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climbing out, the others pull it back down. And
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she's not saying everybody around you is intentionally
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trying to sabotage you. Her point is that systems
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like stability. Your team, family, friendships,
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even your workplace have all adjusted to the
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role you play. If you're always the fixer, everyone
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else gets used to you fixing. If you're always
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the accommodating one, people get used to you
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accommodating. If you are the one who never says
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no, your yes becomes part of how the whole system
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functions. So when you change, everybody else
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feels it too. And sometimes the pushback is not
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really about the boundary itself. They just like
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the old arrangement better. That does not automatically
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make them bad people. Some people will adjust.
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Some will get curious. Some relationships will
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have to recalibrate. And some people may really
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struggle with this new version of you because
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the old version was much more convenient for
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them. Michelle talks about noticing the difference
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between curiosity and control. Curiosity sounds
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like, okay, tell me more. What's changed? Control
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sounds more like guilt. pressure you've changed
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or trying to push you back into the role you
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were playing before. So here's your action item.
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If you start changing a pattern and somebody
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pushes back, don't immediately retreat. Give
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it a little time. Ask yourself, is this person
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trying to understand my change or are they trying
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to get me to go back to the old version of me?
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That does not mean you immediately end the relationship
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or assume that intent. Some people just need
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time to catch up. But you also do not need everybody's
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permission to keep changing. And I think that
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really brings the whole conversation together.
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Good Girl deprogramming is not just setting more
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boundaries. It is recognizing the rules you've
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been following without even realizing it. It
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is checking in with yourself instead of automatically
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looking outward for approval. It is making the
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choice that is actually true for you. And then,
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maybe the hardest part, it is tolerating what
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happens next without immediately abandoning yourself.
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Someone may not like your answer. Someone may
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prefer the old version of you. Someone may even
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decide you're the villain. And you can still
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listen, stay kind, take responsibility when it's
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yours, and trust yourself enough not to run back
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and make everybody comfortable again. Maybe that
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is really the villain era. and maybe becoming
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unfuckable is not about becoming somebody completely
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different. Maybe it's just getting to the point
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where you can come back to yourself and stay
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there. If this hit home, go back and listen to
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my full conversation with Michelle Minikin. We
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get into good girl conditioning, self -trust,
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boundaries, why people may resist when you start
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changing, and what it actually looks like to
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stop following the rules you never consciously
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chose in the first place. Until next time, stay
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loud and keep lifting.
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Welcome to Allowed and Lifted Quick Lift, where
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we take the biggest ideas from our conversations
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and turn them into something you can use today.
00:00:08.080 --> 00:00:10.080
In my conversation with Michelle Minikin, we
00:00:10.080 --> 00:00:12.800
talked about good girl conditioning. And I want
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to start there because I think that phrase can
00:00:14.800 --> 00:00:18.280
be very easily misunderstood. When Michelle talks
00:00:18.280 --> 00:00:21.559
about good girl, she is not describing a personality
00:00:21.559 --> 00:00:25.179
type. She's talking about conditioning. It is
00:00:25.179 --> 00:00:28.379
the set of roles so many women absorb over time
00:00:28.379 --> 00:00:30.539
about how we're supposed to behave if we want
00:00:30.539 --> 00:00:33.320
to be liked, accepted, successful, respected,
00:00:33.840 --> 00:00:37.420
or even just easy to be around. Be nice. Be useful.
00:00:37.740 --> 00:00:40.740
Be agreeable. Don't take up too much space. Don't
00:00:40.740 --> 00:00:43.179
disappoint people. Don't be difficult, prove
00:00:43.179 --> 00:00:46.179
yourself, and keep everyone comfortable. And
00:00:46.179 --> 00:00:48.859
what makes this so sneaky is that a lot of those
00:00:48.859 --> 00:00:52.719
behaviors are rewarded, especially at work. You're
00:00:52.719 --> 00:00:55.479
dependable, you're helpful, you anticipate what
00:00:55.479 --> 00:00:58.899
people need. You step in, you fix things, you
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keep them moving, and you're the one everyone
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knows they can count on. Sound familiar? Look,
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none of these are bad qualities. The problem
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is when you stop realizing you have a choice.
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You start making decisions based less on what
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you actually want or need and more on what will
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keep everyone else happy with you. And that's
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really the point of Michelle's work. This isn't
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about women needing to become tougher or more
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confident or learning how to say no more often.
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It's about recognizing the rules that we have
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internalized, rebuilding self -trust and starting
00:01:33.079 --> 00:01:36.180
to make choices based on what is actually true
00:01:36.180 --> 00:01:39.459
for us. So there were three big takeaways for
00:01:39.459 --> 00:01:41.859
me from this conversation, and each one has something
00:01:41.859 --> 00:01:45.239
very specific you can do with it. Key takeaway
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number one, being capable can quietly turn into
00:01:48.920 --> 00:01:52.400
being endlessly useful. This connected immediately
00:01:52.400 --> 00:01:55.200
for me, for my conversation with Sherlyn Sklenicki
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about competence and how it can become a liability.
00:01:59.079 --> 00:02:01.659
The more you prove you can handle it, the more
00:02:01.659 --> 00:02:05.599
people hand you. And Michelle added another layer
00:02:05.599 --> 00:02:09.009
to that. Sometimes we keep accepting all of it
00:02:09.009 --> 00:02:11.990
because being useful has become tied to how we
00:02:11.990 --> 00:02:15.430
see our own value. I actually learned a version
00:02:15.430 --> 00:02:18.370
of this pretty early in my career. I worked for
00:02:18.370 --> 00:02:20.650
a woman I really admired and she was incredibly
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capable, worked really hard, and was absolutely
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the person who just got shit done. And because
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of that, people gave her more and more and more.
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And she became the person everybody knew would
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just handle it. At one point, ironically, she
00:02:34.650 --> 00:02:37.330
gave me a book with a title along the lines of,
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why good girls don't get ahead, but gutsy girls
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do. And I remember that sticking with me, you
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know, 20 some years later. Because even back
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then, I could see the difference between being
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valuable because you're strategic, trusted, and
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willing to speak up, and being valuable because
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everybody knows you will quietly pick up whatever
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gets dropped on you. Those two are not the same
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thing. And I think a lot of us fall into this
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without even realizing it. We like being dependable.
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We like being needed. And we like being the one
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who can handle it. But at some point, you have
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to ask whether you are choosing the work or whether
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the work just keeps choosing you because everybody
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knows you'll say yes. So here's your action item.
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The next time something lands on your plate,
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pause before you grab it. Ask yourself, am I
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actually the right person to own this or am I
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just the person everyone knows who will handle
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it? and then go one step further. Do I actually
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want to say yes here or am I worried about what
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saying no will mean about me? You can absolutely
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still say yes, but now it's a choice instead
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of just conditioning running quietly in the background.
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Key takeaway number two, your villain error just
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may be the moment you stop performing that old
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role. This is probably my favorite part of the
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whole conversation. Michelle talks about how
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for a lot of women, being disliked can feel like
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an emergency. And I think that shows up in really
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normal ways. You say no and then spend five minutes
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explaining why. You make a decision and you immediately
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start wondering how everyone is going to feel
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about it. Someone seems annoyed with you and
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now you're replaying the conversation wondering
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if you should clarify, apologize, soften it,
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or just somehow fix it. I had to learn this as
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my own career guru. Early in my career, I really
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did think that if I worked hard, tried to do
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the right thing, and treated people well, everybody
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would pretty much see me as sunshine and roses.
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And then you start leading more people and making
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harder decisions, and you realize, oh shit, not
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everyone is going to like me. Not everyone's
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going to even agree with me. And sometimes somebody
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can genuinely think I'm the bad guy, even when
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I believe I made the right decision. That was
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a big shift for me. At some point, I had to stop
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using, does everybody like this, as the test
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for whether I was leading well. And that's why
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Michelle's villain -era language landed so much
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for me. Sometimes becoming the villain in someone
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else's story simply means you stopped absorbing
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the cost of keeping them comfortable. Think about
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that. You say no, and now you're difficult. You
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stop doing something that was never really yours
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to carry and now you're not a team player. You
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stop explaining yourself over and over and now
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somebody thinks you're cold. You leave something
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that isn't working for you anymore and someone
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gets to decide you're selfish. You don't get
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to control everybody else's story about you.
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And this is also where Michelle's talk about
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becoming unfuck with a bull, which I love, because
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she doesn't mean being cold or not caring what
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anybody thinks. It's almost the opposite. You
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can care what someone thinks. You can listen
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and you can take feedback and you can admit when
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you got something wrong. But you are grounded
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enough in yourself that somebody else being unhappy
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with you does not automatically send you into
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fix it mode. I love that. So here's your action
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item. The next time you say no, set a boundary
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or make a decision somebody doesn't love, pay
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attention to what happens right after. Before
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you start over explaining or trying to make them
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feel better, just give it a minute. Ask yourself,
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did I actually do something I need to fix or
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am I just uncomfortable because they're uncomfortable?
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If you got it wrong, own it. It's gonna happen.
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But if you didn't, let that discomfort sit there
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for a little while without immediately trying
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to make it disappear. That's part of rebuilding
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self -trust. Key takeaway number three, nobody
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necessarily wants you to change. This was another
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part of Michelle's work that I thought was really
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important because we talk a lot about doing the
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work on ourselves. Set the boundary, stop people
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-pleasing, speak up. Stop saying yes to everything.
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Well, that's great, right? But then you actually
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change, and people around you may not be thrilled
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about it. Michelle uses the crab bucket analogy.
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One crab can climb out of a bucket pretty easily.
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Put a bunch of crabs in there, and when one starts
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climbing out, the others pull it back down. And
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she's not saying everybody around you is intentionally
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trying to sabotage you. Her point is that systems
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like stability. Your team, family, friendships,
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even your workplace have all adjusted to the
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role you play. If you're always the fixer, everyone
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else gets used to you fixing. If you're always
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the accommodating one, people get used to you
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accommodating. If you are the one who never says
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no, your yes becomes part of how the whole system
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functions. So when you change, everybody else
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feels it too. And sometimes the pushback is not
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really about the boundary itself. They just like
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the old arrangement better. That does not automatically
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make them bad people. Some people will adjust.
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Some will get curious. Some relationships will
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have to recalibrate. And some people may really
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struggle with this new version of you because
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the old version was much more convenient for
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them. Michelle talks about noticing the difference
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between curiosity and control. Curiosity sounds
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like, okay, tell me more. What's changed? Control
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sounds more like guilt. pressure you've changed
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or trying to push you back into the role you
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were playing before. So here's your action item.
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If you start changing a pattern and somebody
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pushes back, don't immediately retreat. Give
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it a little time. Ask yourself, is this person
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trying to understand my change or are they trying
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to get me to go back to the old version of me?
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That does not mean you immediately end the relationship
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or assume that intent. Some people just need
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time to catch up. But you also do not need everybody's
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permission to keep changing. And I think that
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really brings the whole conversation together.
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Good Girl deprogramming is not just setting more
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boundaries. It is recognizing the rules you've
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been following without even realizing it. It
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is checking in with yourself instead of automatically
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looking outward for approval. It is making the
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choice that is actually true for you. And then,
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maybe the hardest part, it is tolerating what
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happens next without immediately abandoning yourself.
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Someone may not like your answer. Someone may
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prefer the old version of you. Someone may even
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decide you're the villain. And you can still
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listen, stay kind, take responsibility when it's
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yours, and trust yourself enough not to run back
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and make everybody comfortable again. Maybe that
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is really the villain era. and maybe becoming
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unfuckable is not about becoming somebody completely
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different. Maybe it's just getting to the point
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where you can come back to yourself and stay
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there. If this hit home, go back and listen to
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my full conversation with Michelle Minikin. We
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get into good girl conditioning, self -trust,
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boundaries, why people may resist when you start
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changing, and what it actually looks like to
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stop following the rules you never consciously
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chose in the first place. Until next time, stay
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loud and keep lifting.
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