Get Paid, Promoted & Recognized Episodes

Why do so many women work harder… and still end up underpaid? In this episode, Betsy sits down with Bhavana Smith, founder of Until There Are Nine, to talk about negotiation, self-advocacy, promotions, and the quiet ways women are taught to stay grateful instead of ask for more. Bhavana shares the personal experience that changed everything for her — a job conversation that led to an almost 70% increase in salary and sparked the mission behind her work helping women advocate for the pay and recognition they’ve earned. She explains why the gender pay gap is not always about one big obvious moment, but often a pattern: women not negotiating, not understanding pay ranges, not speaking up early enough, or assuming good work will naturally lead to better compensation. Betsy and Bhavana also unpack the role managers play, why timing matters more than people realize, and how visibility across an organization impacts promotions and raises.

Women in leadership often get stuck in the likability vs. competence double bind—and it can stall career growth for women even when performance is strong. In this episode, organizational psychologist Dr. Alison Fragale shares the “Likeable Badass” approach to build leadership confidence, strengthen executive presence, and increase influence at work—without shrinking, over-explaining, or apologizing for being direct. If you’ve ever softened your message, over-explained, or held back from advocating for yourself because you didn’t want to be “that person”… this episode is for you. Alison breaks down why the likability-competence tradeoff shows up so often for women, and the practical shifts that help you build influence without contorting yourself into someone else’s comfort zone.

Performance. Image. Exposure. These three elements—collectively known as the PIE model—can make or break your career trajectory. In this empowering conversation, we sit down with Betsy’s former business coach, Linda Strange, to unpack one of the best professional development tools, and why being intentional with your PIE is non-negotiable for ambitious women. Linda shares practical, no-fluff strategies for assessing and improving each slice of your PIE—plus what to do if yours is off-track. You’ll learn the “5-Word Exercise” that will completely shift how you think about your professional brand, and how to intentionally shape how you’re perceived in the workplace. If you’ve ever wondered why hard work alone isn’t enough—this episode will give you the clarity and actionable steps you need to move forward with confidence and intention. Key Takeaways: Why all three PIE elements matter (and what happens when one is missing). How to use the “5-Word Exercise” to define and prot…