Bhavana Smith

In this Quick Lift, we are pulling out the biggest takeaways from the conversation with Bhavana Smith, founder of Until There Are Nine — and this one is for every woman who has ever worked hard, taken on more, stayed loyal, and still felt underpaid or overlooked. We talk about why so many women leave money on the table, not because they are not capable, but because they were never taught how to advocate for themselves clearly and confidently. From negotiating a new offer to asking for a raise or promotion, Bhavana shares practical advice on timing, visibility, and how to make a fact-based case for your value. If you’ve ever assumed your work would speak for itself, this episode is your reminder that sometimes your voice has to speak too. In this Quick Lift, we cover: ▪ Why hard work alone does not guarantee better pay ▪ How to stop treating compensation like an emotional conversation ▪ Why timing matters more than most people realize ▪ How to build visibility without fe…

Why do so many women work harder… and still end up underpaid? In this episode, Betsy sits down with Bhavana Smith, founder of Until There Are Nine, to talk about negotiation, self-advocacy, promotions, and the quiet ways women are taught to stay grateful instead of ask for more. Bhavana shares the personal experience that changed everything for her — a job conversation that led to an almost 70% increase in salary and sparked the mission behind her work helping women advocate for the pay and recognition they’ve earned. She explains why the gender pay gap is not always about one big obvious moment, but often a pattern: women not negotiating, not understanding pay ranges, not speaking up early enough, or assuming good work will naturally lead to better compensation. Betsy and Bhavana also unpack the role managers play, why timing matters more than people realize, and how visibility across an organization impacts promotions and raises.