Quick Lift: How Women Build Confidence and Reinvent Themselves
Confidence rarely shows up first. It gets built in the smaller moments—through reps, discomfort, and the decision to move before we feel fully ready.
In this Quick Lift, we unpack the biggest takeaways from our conversation with Jeannie Zappe, from building confidence in small steps to learning how to challenge the story we tell ourselves. Her story is bigger than swimming or reinvention. It is about how women build courage in real life.
If we’ve been hesitating, overthinking, or talking ourselves out of something bigger, this one is the reminder to take the next step.
We cover:
- why confidence is built before the big moment ever comes
- why waiting to feel 100% ready keeps us stuck
- how to shift from worst-case thinking to possibility
- why reinvention is not reckless
- how “What if I can?” can change the way we move
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Welcome to A Loud and Lifted Quick Lift, the
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shorter episode where we take a few of the biggest
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ideas from the full conversation and turn them
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into something practical. And Jeannie's episode
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is such a good one for this, because yes, her
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story is extraordinary. She reinvented herself
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in midlife. She took on major open water swims.
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She said yes to things that most people would
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run from. But the bigger lesson is not about
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swimming. It's about how confidence actually
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gets built. Because I think a lot of women look
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at someone like Jeanne and think, well, she must
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just naturally be brave or she must have always
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been confident. But that is not really the story.
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The story is that confidence was built over time
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by taking the next step, stretching outside her
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comfort zone and choosing not to let fear make
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every decision. And that is what makes this conversation
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so relevant. because most of us are not being
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asked to jump into the Hudson or swim across
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the English Channel, but we are being asked to
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do brave things in our own lives all the time.
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Speak up, raise our hand, change directions,
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try something new, ask for more and trust ourselves.
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So here are takeaways from Jeannie's episode
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that really stood out and one action item for
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each of them. Number one, confidence doesn't
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come first. You build it by saying yes before
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you're fully ready. This is really the heart
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of Jeannie's story. So many women are waiting
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for confidence to arrive before they make the
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move, before they apply, before they speak up,
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before they raise their hand, or before they
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even say yes. But confidence usually does not
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show up first. It gets built. rep after rep,
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after the risk, after the stretch, and after
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the uncomfortable moment when you move away.
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And I think that this is where Jeannie's model
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works so well. She did not wake up one day magically
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confident enough to do huge bold things. She
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built that confidence by doing smaller hard things
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first. and the bigger ones after. And one of
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the simplest but strongest things she said in
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the episode was this, say yes, not to everything,
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not to nonsense, not to things that go against
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your values or burn you out, but say yes to the
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opportunity, the challenge, the stretch. The
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next level, when fear is the only thing telling
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you no. This is such an important distinction
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because sometimes we call it, it's not the right
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time or I'm not sure I'm ready. When really what
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is happening is we're just uncomfortable and
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growth and comfort rarely hang out together.
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A lot of women miss opportunities because they
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think they need to be 100 % buttoned up first,
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but almost nobody is. Sometimes the opportunity
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comes first, then the confidence catches up.
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item, pick one thing you've been hesitating on
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because you did not feel fully ready. Ask yourself,
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is this truly a no or is it fear? If it's fear,
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say yes to the next step this week. Number two,
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stop asking what if I can't and start asking
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what if I can? This needs to be one of the loudest
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takeaways from the whole episode because most
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of us are incredibly good at imagining what could
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go wrong. What if I fail? What if I embarrass
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myself? What if I'm not good enough? What if
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I say yes and regret it? We can build a disaster
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scenario very, very fast. But Jeannie flips that
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with one simple question. What if I can? What
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if I can do this? What if I can figure it out?
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What if it goes better than I expected? This
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is not pretending that risk does not exist and
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it's not even fake positivity. It's just refusing
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to let fear be the only voice in your head. And
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that matters because the question you lead with
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shapes how you show up. If you lead with, what
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if I can't, you hesitate, you shrink, you stay
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guarded, you have commit. If you lead with, what
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if I can, there is openness, possibility, energy,
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and ownership. And frankly, if we're capable
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of imagining the worst case scenario all day
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long, we should also be capable of imagining
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a good outcome too. That mental shift is not
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fluff. It changes behavior. action item. The
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next time you catch yourself thinking, what if
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I can't stop and replace it in real time with
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what if I can? Then write down two positive outcomes
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that could happen if you move forward. Number
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three, reinvention is not too late. Sometimes
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it's finally listening to yourself. One of the
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most powerful parts of Jeannie's story is that
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she made a major shift after a long career. She
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had spent 20 years in IT. She had built a career.
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She had experience. She had credibility. And
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then she got to a point where she realized this
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is not it anymore. And that is big because a
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lot of women stay in something too long because
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it looks stable, logical, or successful from
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the outside. Or maybe because they have invested
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so much time into it that leaving it feels irresponsible.
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But there is a difference between something being
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hard and something being out of alignment. And
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what I love in Jeannie's story is that she finally
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listened to that internal pull. Not because she
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had every answer, not because the next step was
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perfectly mapped out, but she knew she could
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not keep forcing herself to stay in something
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that no longer fit. This is a lesson that so
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many women need. You do not have to stay stuck
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just because you've been there a long time. You
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do not have to keep living an old version of
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yourself just because it made sense years ago.
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Reinvention is not reckless. A lot of time, it's
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just honesty. Action item, ask yourself, where
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in my life or work Do I know something no longer
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fits? Don't solve it all today. Just tell yourself
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the truth. Next, the people around you matter
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more than you think. Jeannie's story also reminds
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us that courage is personal, but it's rarely
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built alone. She talked about having people around
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her who encouraged her, supported her, and helped
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her believe it was OK to let go of one chapter
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and move toward another. And that matters because
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sometimes we make confidence feel like this is
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totally a solo project. Like, if we're strong
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enough, we would not need support. And this just
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is not true. Sometimes borrowed belief is what
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gets us moving. Sometimes we need the friend
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who says, do it. Sometimes we need the mentor
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who says, you're ready. And we need the partner
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who says, it's okay to let go. This is not weakness.
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This is wisdom. And this is a good reminder to
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look at your circle. Are the people around you
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helping you to get braver? Or are they keeping
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you small, safe, and stuck? Because support does
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not just need to feel nice. It can change what
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we are willing to do. Action item, reach out
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to one person this week who makes you stronger.
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Tell them what you are considering, where you
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feel stuck, or what stretch you are trying to
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make. Let someone support you. Jeannie's story
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is about a lot more than swimming, although her
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feats are amazing. It's about confidence, reinvention,
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courage, support. and possibility. And maybe
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most of all, it's all about refusing to let what
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if I can't be the question that drives your life?
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Because the better question, and maybe the one
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more of us need to ask is, what if I can? And
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then right behind it, what if I just say yes?
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Thanks for listening to this quick lift. If you
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have not listened to Jeannie's full episode,
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I strongly encourage you to do so. Until next
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time, stay loud and stay lifted.

Speaker/Coach
Jeannie Zappe, a transformative speaker and coach, excelled in leadership roles in higher education IT before pursuing her true calling as a swim coach in 2010. Harnessing her lifelong passion, she's coached a diverse spectrum, from young talents to elite national athletes and Ironmen/women.
Jeannie's personal feats include swimming around Manhattan at age 53, crossing the English Channel at 55, and joining the elite ranks of the Triple Crown of Open Water Swimming at 56 by swimming from Catalina Island to Long Beach, California.
Her life-altering question to herself, "What if I can?", transformed Jeannie’s perspective, and she loves to share its power. With a captivating and lively presentation style, she embarks on an emotional journey that dives into the depths of setting daring goals, braving intimidating opportunities, and upholding an unwavering optimism.
She holds a BS in Quantitative Business Analysis from Penn State and an MS in Business Administration from Bucknell University.




