Stop Forcing It: Intuition, Precision & “Orientation” for Women in Leadership

Kehla G joins us for a real-talk conversation on what it looks like to lead (and build) when the pressure is real—without spiraling into more hustle, more noise, and more “I must not be enough.”
We talk about orientation (where you’re standing when you try to solve a problem), why the solution is often taking things away, and how to reconnect with your intuition by clearing the mental and digital clutter.
Kehla also breaks down Human Design + Gene Keys in a way that actually makes sense for corporate women who already know tools like DISC and StrengthsFinder—and want a deeper, steadier kind of self-trust.
You’ll Learn / We Cover
■ Why “trust your gut” isn’t helpful without space to actually hear it
■ How to quiet outside noise (and the internal noise you’ve learned to live with)
■ What coherence really feels like—and how to know when you’re not in it
■ Precision as a power move: doing less, saying less, choosing smarter
■ A practical way to make decisions that feel like you (not chaotic, not forced)
■ Why success (and survival) isn’t one-dimensional—and how a holistic lens helps leaders
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Previous podcast mentioned: Beyond Personality Test: The Power of Human Design and Teams
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Welcome to Loud and Lifted, the podcast for women
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in leadership who want to grow their careers
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without shrinking themselves in the process.
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Today's episode is for the woman who keeps thinking,
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it's my messaging. I need to say it better. I
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need to offer more. And you're feeling scattered,
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overstimulated, and like you're spinning. My
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guest is Kayla G. And she's known for helping
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high performing women get precise about what
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actually matters so they can stop doing the most
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and too much and just start getting results.
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We talk about why It's My Messaging can be a
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trap, how to create coherence when your brain
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feels like you have 37 tabs open, and a super
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practical way to think about intuition. Not as
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woo -woo, but as a signal once you remove the
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noise. Let's get into it. Welcome to Loud and
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Lifted. Kayla, thank you so much for being here.
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How do you feel being on the other end of the
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microphone for a podcast today? I'm so excited
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because obviously I've done so many interviews
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and I had you on my channel, but it's so fine
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to be in the chair and be like, what are you
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going to ask me? Where is this going to go? And
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it kind of takes the pressure off and I love
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it. Nice. Oh, don't worry, the pressure is going
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to be on because we have a lot of questions for
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you. So you have a very different business and
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approach to business. So first of all, before
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we get into it, let's talk about who are you
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and what do you do and how do you help women?
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So I am a human design, Gene Keys, AI business
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coach for spiritual women who specifically are
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growing their business online and they really
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want to understand how to leverage social media
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courses, emails and create an entire ecosystem
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that works for them based on their energetic.
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So there's zero bro marketing like. pretty much
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anti cookie cutter approach altogether. And so
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I've been in this business now for seven years,
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and I've been podcasting for seven years and
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I've been an entrepreneur for 10 years. And so
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I just I really love the work that I do. And
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obviously, being here and having this conversation
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with you, I know there's a lot of corporate women
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listening to this, but there's going to be some
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golden fucking nuggets for you today. So I'm
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really looking forward to this chat. Yes, I love
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it and you have such a different approach because
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it's the spiritual piece of it, right? And we
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get so hung up on our checklist and professional
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development and that's all great and there's
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a place for that. But for a lot of people, they
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need to see that other angle to it. So when you
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first start working with someone, where do you
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start? Do we start with the orientation or how
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do we get moving when you start working with
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a new person? Yeah, I find that when women come
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to work with me, what typically happens is they're
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aware that they have a blind spot, but they don't
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know what the blind spot is. They're going to
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say things like, oh, I have this offer and I've
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been showing up on social media and my messaging
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and I'm doing all these things. I'm doing all
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the things. I'm podcasting, like they're just
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pulling their hair out. And what's really interesting
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is that what I noticed, so you use the word orientation
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and this is like a very non -sexy word that has
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been brought into my vocabulary in the last several
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months as it's popped up for me. is I notice
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the biggest blind spot that women have is that
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they don't realize where they're standing when
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they're looking at the problems of their business.
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So when something's not working, they'll oversimplify
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it down to, it's my messaging. If I get my messaging
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right, then everything else will work. And it's
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like, if that's not. how it works. So I help
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women rather than being so honed in on like one
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or two things and making everything wrong, or
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if things are quiet, automatically assuming it's
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not working, step back and look at where they're
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standing, the orientation, you are stepping back
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and you're looking at, okay, sure, here's the
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messaging, but then there's your offer. But when
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somebody comes into your ecosystem of they got
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your lead magnet and they're on your email list,
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how are you nurturing them? Do you have six different
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offers because you haven't been able to sell
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the first offer. So you chuffed it up to try
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and sell it better. And now your audience is
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confused. It doesn't matter how good your messaging
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is. Like if that's just one example of like the
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through line of you want to get people into your
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offer, but then look at how all of these things
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are actually. incoherent and so when you pull
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back and step out it helps women stop taking
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the unworkability of their business as a personal
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attack on themselves and thinking oh my god i'm
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not working hard enough and it's my identity
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and i have to do all the subconscious work it
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actually gets to be a lot more simple and less
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personal and it just like regulates the fuck
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out of our nervous systems when we approach business
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this way so that's kind of a you know kit and
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caboodle of what i do with women from a a farsighted
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perspective. I love that. And I feel like you're
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talking to me because I have totally done that.
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In the last year of doing my own business, you
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know, you kind of start off, you think you're
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here and then you're not really getting traction.
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So you go in another direction and then you add
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more shit and all of a sudden you're like, I
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am just throwing spaghetti at the wall and I
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don't even think anything is sticking, but I
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just keep throwing more. So it's easy to get
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overwhelmed on that and you know how it happens.
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So then it's just like... Okay, let's fix it.
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Let's approach it. You know, when you talk about
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that, obviously you're talking about it from
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a business perspective, but I couldn't help think,
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how does that impact? We talk a lot about personal
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brand, right? Like in our image, how do we, how
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does that impact that? Like just women struggle
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with that piece too of, you know, I feel like
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sometimes we try to be all things to all people.
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And, you know, we try, we try to do all this
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professional development to be better. And we're
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just kind of like spinning versus just like.
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Stopping and focusing. So how do you see that
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play into to women personally? Yeah, I think
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this is so huge because what you said specifically
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actually is something doesn't work so that we
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think something's missing so then we keep adding
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more shit and a hundred percent of the time a
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hundred percent of the time When I work with
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women we end up taking things away. I'm like
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you don't need six freebies You actually don't
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need three different offers. You don't need to
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be on five different platforms, like we subtract,
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I take things away, which is crazy because if
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you actually look at the coaching industry as
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an example, it's rooted in you are not enough,
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therefore you need this thing and here's this
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next program and this new identity and you have
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to work on this identity. So coming back to the
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identity piece, what I notice is that when there's
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a lack of coherence, I use this word a lot as
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well, is like coherence is when It's like a living,
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breathing, like things are working in harmony
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and things are connected in the way that they're
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meant to be. They're in the correct sequence,
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therefore they work. When there's a lack of coherence,
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and again, it comes back to women thinking it's
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not working and suddenly becomes personal. It's
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like, well, I must not be the woman who can hold
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it. I must be living more into the future version
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of me who has the money and the clients and so
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on. So then what happens is women will start,
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even though they think they're doing identity
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work and they're starting from within, they start
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building their business from the outside and
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they start borrowing language like, oh, I need
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to be more activated. I'm going to start talking
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like this or they start thinking, oh, look how
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that person made that $33 offer. I'm going to
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make a version of this and that's who I am now.
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And so there's a reaching in a borrowing from
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the outside and we think that's identity work
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because it's still rooted in pressure, need to
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get people to buy these things, I'm going to
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do X, Y, and Z. It's still rooted in momentum.
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I'm only successful if I'm consistently making
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sales. So everything is based on this reactionary
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experience of running a business where it's constantly
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looking for the instant external gratification.
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And that's not identity work. That is like...
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the effort to try and build infrastructure, but
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you're holding up walls that aren't yours, which
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is something that I'd mentioned to you earlier.
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Identity work is when you find things actually
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get a lot more quiet, something that I've been
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doing the last couple of months where I'm not
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announcing every single thing that I'm working
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on. I'm not trying to build hype to do a big
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launch to get people into a program. It's very
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much focused on, okay, How can I cultivate the
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coherence of my business? And if I have this
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offer, if I'm posting in this way, does it actually
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connect to the next process or the next journey
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of where my clients are going? How are my clients
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actually experiencing this specific funnel leading
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into this program? Like it's looking at the coherence
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of what it is that I'm building and it actually
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doesn't require any external noise or validation.
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But it's like a part of your ego dies because
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you realize that you're building in silence and
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there's no external, hey, you're doing great.
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Keep going. You have to trust yourself. Right.
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So that's where deep identity work comes in.
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And I hope that that was a really big explanation.
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But I think it's really important because there's
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so many layers where we can see ourselves operating
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from. No, that's so interesting. I love the word
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coherence. I can't say that I've ever used that,
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and I might start using it. So how many of these
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women that you work with come from corporate
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originally and are now starting entrepreneurs?
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And how fucked up are they because they're coming
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from a corporate background? So funny. I laugh
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from familiarity. It's like not a laugh of judgment.
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It is, uh -huh, I get that. I would say that
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100 % of the women that I work with will literally
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say themselves, like, I've been a terrible employee.
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I cannot be employable. Like, I just this doesn't
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fulfill me. Yes, I was good at being a teacher.
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Yes, I was good at being a VP. Yes, I was good
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at doing X, Y and Z. And it's like, I can't do
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that anymore. Like, there's something pulling
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me. There's a purpose inside of me. I can't fully
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articulate it. This is what I want to do. I don't
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know what it looks like. But I feel the fire
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like that. That's literally the women that I
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work with. And that's also a version of me as
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well. And so when you say fucked up from corporate,
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what I do notice is, this is the biggest thing,
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women who leave corporate to start a business
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are so caught up in the structure and the ecosystem
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that they may have not noticed within the corporate
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space and they associate the amount of effort
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and hard work that they're doing should produce
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results within a specific timeline. Yes. Right?
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So I'm going to get more specific with this,
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believe it or not. So in corporate, we show up,
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we do our job, we get a salary. There's a very
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clear description of when you do X, Y happens.
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Here's a promotion, here's a conversation, here's
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constantly being witnessed. This is me assuming
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that we're in person at this point and now we're
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working remotely. So you're in person, people
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see you every day, you have conversations. There's
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constant external feedback from the environment.
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But when what you don't realize is that there's
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an entire ecosystem within a corporation that
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is structured that when you do x you get y when
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you work you get money when you go into a business
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that ecosystem and structure literally does not
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exist so we have to build it that's why i talked
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about coherence because you have to build something
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coherent that's how businesses create corporations
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because they have coherence within their company
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it's not perfect obviously but it's stable because
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they can pay their employees and hire people.
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So you are your own employee to your business.
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So if there's no business structure, how are
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you going to get paid? Like that's really what
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it comes down to. So that's why I've done so
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much personal deconditioning from corporate and
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even over the last couple of years, where it's
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not about how much action I'm taking, it's about
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the action that I'm taking and whether or not
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it makes sense for what it is that I'm building.
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And the crazy thing is that you cannot outwork
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timing. That is the most painful truth of them
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all. You literally cannot outwork timing and
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I think that is the hardest pill to swallow as
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an entrepreneur and that's probably the biggest
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thing that women have to deal with when they
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leave corporate because it's like You know every
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six months you get a raise and after two years
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you get this and it's going to retirement and
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here's your 401k and it's like very dialed in
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but it's not like that business at least not
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in the beginning now. Oh my gosh, you're so right
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in that you can't outwork timing. And that's
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probably one of my biggest challenges in this
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last year. I mean, 20 plus years in a corporate
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structure and environment and consistency and
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a couple months into doing my own thing. And
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I'm like, why is this not taking off? Why am
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I not doing this? Why don't I have more business?
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And a solopreneur said to me, she's like, you
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just need to be. patient, like it's going to
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come, but it doesn't come in three months. She's
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like, you're doing the work, you're planting
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the seeds, like your garden takes time to grow.
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I was like, I'm not patient. So I'm still learning
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the timing piece of it, but you know, it's, I
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love the D conditioning, D programming. I love
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that because that has been core. When I went
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from a really big corporate organization to a
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much smaller, it was, it felt entrepreneurial,
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but there's still a structure and people and
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team and consistency to now this level. On my
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own, as we were joking at the beginning, you
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know, my own IT person, own whatever, it really
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does change you. And you do have to decondition
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from those structures and the confines that a
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lot of us grew up in and became used to. So let's
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switch gears a little bit. Let's talk about intuition.
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Tell me how we can best, hardest utilize our
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intuition in business. Yes, I love this question
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because obviously I feel like up until now I've
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been like, here's the structure and the masculinity
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of all of this, but then I can also swing so
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hard into the femininity of intuition. I think
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the biggest thing when people say, well, what
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is your intuition? How does this work? It really
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is prioritizing removing noise so that you can
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feel and hear the signal from your body. And
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what I mean by that is what I find is when there's
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too much noise happening, let's say for example,
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let's use a house as an example. So there's a
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lot of clutter. They've got things in the kitchen
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and there's chaos here and there. And it's like,
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you're not actually going to see the surface
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area of the space because it's covered. So if
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I were to ask you, how much surface area do you
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have in your house? You'd be like, I don't know,
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but there's a lot of shit everywhere. So when
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you look at clearing the noise, clearing the
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shit, then you can say, oh, here's the surface
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area of this counter. Here's the surface area
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of the couch. Here's the surface area of the
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dresser. And suddenly you can see the spaciousness
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and you can feel energetically how you can. walk
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into a room and your shoulders feel like they
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drop and you can just feel oh my god this smells
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so good or look how the light is coming through
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the window right now and you know the bed is
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made and things feel peaceful and calm so your
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intuition as much as you can try so hard to listen
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to your intuition be like what does my intuition
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have to say but if your environment physically
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or even mentally like you have too much on your
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mind and maybe you need a calendar to take things
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out of your head. If you really want to connect
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your intuition you have to create the space for
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it and that is so important because people say
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I want to connect to my intuition and immediately
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go to that but then it's like you got to create
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that again, literally it's the same conversation
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as earlier creating that ecosystem of your business
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around your business. You need to create that
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spaciousness around yourself for your intuition
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so that you can hear it and connect to it. And
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I think that this has been something that I've
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worked on the last couple of months. And like,
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if you're like, what does it mean? You know,
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obviously, we use the house metaphor. But if
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you're in the online space, for example, or even
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in corporate, it's like, how can you remove unnecessary
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noise that isn't actually helpful? Like I went
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on Instagram, I followed everyone on Instagram
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in the last couple of months. I also unsubscribed
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a lot from my email list. And I'm not listening
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to any other podcasts right now. I removed Instagram
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from my phone. I only go on my iPad. And it's
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like very intentional, like I'm posting these
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stories and doing X, Y and Z. So it's really
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simplifying. What input is coming in because
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the less input you have the more space you have
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the quieter It is the more you can hear and feel
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that little voice inside of you So that's kind
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of the first Process of how I would like create
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the structure for connecting to your intuition
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because some people are probably like I don't
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know if I'm connecting to my intuition But if
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they're all of a sudden they're like, oh my god,
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I have so much noise Yeah, get rid of the noise
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and then see what happens Oh, that's so true.
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And especially with our phones, right? Like we
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can't just sit. And I catch myself doing it.
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I could be like at a stoplight that I know it's
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going to be really long. Instead of just sitting
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there listening to the radio, doing whatever,
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I pick up my phone. I'm seeing if anybody texts.
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It's like, I'm sitting here for 20 seconds. Why
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can I not just sit? And I did that recently actually
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on the way back from yoga. So I already felt
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like I was like in a good spot. I'm like… I didn't
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turn on any music. My drive was like five minutes,
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but it was five minutes of complete silence,
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which at first was a little uncomfortable. even
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though it's by myself. But I try to do that more
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and more because there is, there's so much noise
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and we just never stop. We can't not be on our
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phones or have music playing or the TV in the
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background. And, and you're right. It's just
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so much constantly at us that there's, there's
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no time for that silence or quiet just to actually
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think. And I guess that's probably why people
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always would say about like good ideas coming
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in the shower or on a run, because you're like
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just. not focused on that. You're focusing on
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running or taking a shower. So I love the intuition
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piece and that makes sense. Are there any other
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tips like that to be able to like tie into your
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intuition more? Yeah, I think that when it comes
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to There's so many different ways you can connect
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with it, whether it's meditation or journaling
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or even just walking and like you said, not listening
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to music and seeing what comes up. I think there's
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even been times where in the last couple of weeks,
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I was in the kitchen, I was cooking and I wasn't
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listening to music. I was in the kitchen for
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like two hours in silence cooking. When the door
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is open, that's when things can drop in. I'll
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give you an example. I was sharing with you before
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we hit record that I went pretty fucking deep
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into feng shui in the last two months. I'm really
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excited about this. one of the the last couple
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weeks what we've had to do is you know lay the
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bagua map on our house figure out the directions
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get really clear on like what's supportive in
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each room that kind of thing and one of the other
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things we had to do was to do a clearing in the
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house so it was like i bought you know some smudge
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and some palo santo and i did like a salt cure
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in the corner like we're going full voodoo here
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and last night i spent an hour doing a Cleansing
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and a clearing of the house and I put on some
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like hurts binaural beats and I was before this
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I had set intention and I was like My intention
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for the home and just for my life this year is
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just to create and cultivate and hold more harmony.
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That's something that it just, hmm, harmony in
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relationships, harmony with money, harmony with
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business, that feels really fucking good. But
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there was still something there that wasn't fully
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landing. And I was like, okay, I'm just going
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to take this and run with this because this is
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what happens. Your intuition doesn't necessarily
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tell you. everything right away all at once.
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Sometimes it comes in pieces. So I'm like, okay,
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I'm gonna go, I'm gonna clear and cleanse the
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house and I'm going around with my smudge and
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like figure eights all over the place. And all
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of a sudden, one sentence drops in. Let it be
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easy. And I thought, oh shit, that's the sentence.
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It's not cultivating, create harmony, because
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then that is doing something. And I'm a doer.
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I'm like an over -functioning, high -achiever,
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freaky type A person. I will do shit until the
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cows come home. And when this dropped in and
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it was just, I'm in the middle of smudging, listening
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to my binaural beats, and it was like, let it
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be easy. And I actually got so emotional because
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I thought... Wow, I can see where I'd been trying
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to control things and clean this and do that
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and organize this. And then I thought, well,
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what do I do if I let it be easy? And I'm like,
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holy fuck, I have to take my hands off the steering
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wheel. So it was just like three little words.
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And that came straight from my intuition and
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I wasn't doing anything crazy. I'm not telling
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everyone you have to go clear your house and
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cleanse and whatever, but I am saying that you
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got to trust your intuition in layers. It's not
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always going to be a straight shot, but it's
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quiet and it will not be loud. That's the trick.
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Well, that's a great point, right? If someone
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is trying to declutter their brain and they feel
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like they're tapping into her intuition, how
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do they know they're doing it? I don't want to
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say right because there's no right way. But to
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your point, it's kind of that quiet. Like how
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do they just kind of extract that once they feel
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like they're doing that clearing out of their
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minds? Yeah, I think coming back to the coherence
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thing, like when those three words dropped in
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my head, let it be easy. It was like sliding,
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like the satisfaction of when you've done like
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a thousand piece puzzle and you go to sliding
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that last piece and it just fucking clicks and
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you're like zero explanation, zero proving energy.
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This is the truth. I don't care what anyone says
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or what anyone thinks like it's just pure and
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you can trust it but if it's something that comes
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to you and you're like Hmm, I don't know. What
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about this? What about that? And then you take
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it and you talk about it with three different
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people and they gave you four different perspectives
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and you're like Well, what if I did this? No,
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I'm not gonna do that anymore. I need to go do
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this So notice that there's like a restlessness
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there and it's it's it does take a level of trust
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of like, okay this clicked for me, what if I
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just left it and didn't touch it and I didn't
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need to go and tinker and fuck around and and
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put it here and put it there. This is what came
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through for me. What is it going to look like
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now if I just let it be and let it show up for
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me rather than than going and bringing in external
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noise because you don't trust yourself. So that's
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the thing is like I look for that very specific
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feeling of this feels like truth and I literally
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don't care what anyone else has to say about
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it. I love that. That's great. So we're at the
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beginning of the year still. And, you know, you
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mentioned that's your intention. How often are
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you setting intentions? Do you have a word of
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the year? Like, how do you sort of set those
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tones, I guess, for your year? Yeah, I let things
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unfurl, but I do set points that I like to come
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back to. And every December, I always record
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a podcast episode about, you know, choosing your
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gene keys for the year and your word of the year.
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And my word for this year is precision. And I
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love this word because I mean, again, it's not
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a sexy word. It kind of goes in with orientation
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and coherence and like the words that people
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don't typically use. But precision for me means
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if I'm going to be precise, then I can't entertain
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noise. I have to get to the point, right? And
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with precision, other mantras that came through,
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again, I guess, let it be easy is now one, but
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do less, say less. Like the things that I'm telling
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myself and holding the standards to are just
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smaller, but very intentional. And so that's
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my word of the year. My gene key of the year
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is a 60 second gene key. I know we didn't talk
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about gene keys today, but the gift of that gene
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key is precision. So it really is about, you
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know, what is it going to take to be precise?
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What do you need to take away to keep that simplicity?
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And I just find that Having those little anchors
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can be really helpful, whether it's a word, whether
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it's a gene key, whether it's something in astrology
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or whatever resonates with you in affirmation
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or if you have a very specific goal. It's whatever
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is going to anchor for you. When you create it
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and it feels coherent and you have that click
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and you don't feel like you have to justify or
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explain to anyone, that's when you know that
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that's your truth. That's how I love to choose.
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Usually I choose a word. and then I'll reflect
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on it in the December. I'm like, wow, so here's
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what I thought was going to happen, and then
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here's what actually happened, and it's a whole
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story, but it's really fun. Right. But I love
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that, but there's a theme. And what's so crazy
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is you're building a business, you're growing,
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but your theme is about simplifying and stop
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trying to do so much and being over the top.
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And I love that. And I actually saw somebody
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else on LinkedIn post that too, and with very
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similar rationalization. It's like, we get so
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overstimulated with our goals and to -do list
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and increasing revenue and just all the things
00:24:02.940 --> 00:24:05.420
we want to achieve that it just like, ah, it's
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like total chaos. So I love the fact of like
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just dialing it back, which I unfortunately went
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the other direction with my word this year, so
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I went with Ignite. Again, year two of a business
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of trying to get things moving. I wanted everything
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to come to fruition really this year and to ignite,
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so I'm kind of rethinking that, but it's all
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right. I'm going to go with it. It's the fire
00:24:27.769 --> 00:24:30.329
horse, so it all goes together. Yeah. No, I think
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go with it. Because sometimes, like, OK, last
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year, my word in 2025 was ascend. This is what
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came to me. And I was like, where the fuck? I
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was actually in charge of the key and I was playing
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with the gene keys, like doing my thing. And
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I was like, ascend? What the hell? And I thought
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this. Oh, I don't know if I like this because
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it felt very like pedestal like ascend. And I
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thought, no, I'm just going to sit with this.
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And I stuck with it the entire year. And by the
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end of the year, what happened was I realized
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I did have to rise above my shit. And there's
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so much that I had to let go. It was a snake
00:25:01.269 --> 00:25:02.829
year, right? Everything was shutting. I changed
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my software, my platforms. I let go of offers.
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I'm like, oh, that checks out. So it surprised
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me. So stick. If you like Ignite, stick with
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it and then see what happens. That's the fun
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part. That'll be fun. Yeah. I always try to do
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a word of the year and some years I'm like, well,
00:25:17.730 --> 00:25:21.470
that didn't quite work out. It's fine. So you
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mentioned Gene Keys and I think to this audience,
00:25:23.609 --> 00:25:25.769
this is probably a topic they don't know a lot
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about. So tell us what that is and how you utilize
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it. Yeah, I'll share like gene keys and human
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design like an overlay of this. So obviously
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I feel like everyone's heard of astrology. That's
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like the big thing that people are most familiar
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with. And so these systems, human design and
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gene keys are two different systems that they
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have crossover. So talk about human design first.
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When you get your birth information, so your
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date, time and location, you can literally go
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to Google and type in like human design chart
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and there'll be different platforms where you
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can put your information in. I like to use genetic
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matrix. So you put your birth information in
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and what you're going to see on the screen will
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be very confusing. I'm not going to lie. but
00:26:02.759 --> 00:26:04.680
you'll probably be very curious about it. You're
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gonna see a body graph, okay, and there's gonna
00:26:06.819 --> 00:26:09.220
be shapes, and there's gonna be channels connecting
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the shapes, there's gonna be a lot of numbers,
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you'll see information that'll say, you're a
00:26:13.180 --> 00:26:15.420
generator, you're a one -three, you're an emotional
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authority, there's gonna be information about
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what human design is. Human design is an energetic
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blueprint on how you're designed to show up and
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operate in your life or, for example, in your
00:26:26.359 --> 00:26:29.559
business. And so I use this as a tool with my
00:26:29.559 --> 00:26:32.380
clients so that when we go to build, their business.
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It's very specific to their energetic gifts and
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capacities. So it's an integrity and coherent
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with their being. Right. Now the gene keys is
00:26:43.519 --> 00:26:46.099
there's a component, there's the astrology component
00:26:46.099 --> 00:26:48.319
from human design that pulls over into the gene
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keys. And then the gene keys also has a system
00:26:50.519 --> 00:26:53.140
with human design. called the I Ching, and it
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comes from the Chinese divination text. And there's
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64 streams of consciousness, as we call it, 64
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numbers that represent very specific energetic
00:27:03.500 --> 00:27:06.440
experiences that we have as people. And so your
00:27:06.440 --> 00:27:09.680
gene keys, there's like... three different sequences
00:27:09.680 --> 00:27:13.039
that show your energetic experience of how you
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move through life. So human design gives you
00:27:15.539 --> 00:27:17.880
more of the, here's my strategy and how I make
00:27:17.880 --> 00:27:21.099
decisions. And Gene Keys is more of a contemplative,
00:27:21.460 --> 00:27:23.859
meditative experience of, oh my gosh, I can see
00:27:23.859 --> 00:27:26.240
how this specific energetic expression shows
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up in this area of life. And so it helps you
00:27:29.339 --> 00:27:32.299
see patterns. It helps you see triggers. It helps
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you see shadows. And then you can integrate this.
00:27:35.680 --> 00:27:38.039
So I love to use this as a tool as well with
00:27:38.039 --> 00:27:40.220
entrepreneurs in business. So obviously, we talked
00:27:40.220 --> 00:27:43.700
a lot about structure today, but I use a lot
00:27:43.700 --> 00:27:46.240
of energetics within the structure. And that
00:27:46.240 --> 00:27:48.299
creates the integrity for people to be aligned
00:27:48.299 --> 00:27:50.180
with themselves and how they move through their
00:27:50.180 --> 00:27:53.569
life and their business. I love that. And, you
00:27:53.569 --> 00:27:55.230
know, it's funny, for those of us who grew up
00:27:55.230 --> 00:27:57.829
in a professional corporate world, you take 800
00:27:57.829 --> 00:28:00.069
assessments, right, from like Strengthfinder
00:28:00.069 --> 00:28:03.809
and Predictive Index and Disc and all that stuff.
00:28:04.430 --> 00:28:07.089
And that information's good to kind of help to
00:28:07.089 --> 00:28:09.049
know how you operate. But this is a different
00:28:09.049 --> 00:28:11.029
perspective and level, and I got to find out
00:28:11.029 --> 00:28:13.720
what time I'm born so I can do this. I asked
00:28:13.720 --> 00:28:16.400
my mom the other week. One thing I want to say,
00:28:16.579 --> 00:28:18.539
what you just said is so important. I actually
00:28:18.539 --> 00:28:20.460
recorded a podcast episode. I think I'm going
00:28:20.460 --> 00:28:22.180
to find it and we can put it in the show notes
00:28:22.180 --> 00:28:23.559
for you because there's probably a lot of corporate
00:28:23.559 --> 00:28:25.740
women who are like, yeah, I know disc. I know
00:28:25.740 --> 00:28:27.819
the enneagram. I know this. You do all these
00:28:27.819 --> 00:28:30.440
tests. Human design and genki's are not a personality
00:28:30.440 --> 00:28:33.579
test. It's like your energetic expression since
00:28:33.579 --> 00:28:36.000
the moment you were born. That's the difference.
00:28:36.359 --> 00:28:39.259
However, what I find is really, really interesting
00:28:39.259 --> 00:28:42.259
is that Those personality tests, they're based
00:28:42.259 --> 00:28:44.420
on your behavior and your motivation, so they
00:28:44.420 --> 00:28:47.039
can change. I used to be an ENFJ, and now I'm
00:28:47.039 --> 00:28:49.359
an INFJ. Like, why did that happen? I don't know
00:28:49.359 --> 00:28:51.559
why that happened. I mean, I can speculate. But
00:28:51.559 --> 00:28:53.900
with human design, it doesn't change, and your
00:28:53.900 --> 00:28:55.980
gene keys don't change. Yes, there's transits,
00:28:55.980 --> 00:28:57.819
like you hear in astrology, oh, we're in Pisces
00:28:57.819 --> 00:29:00.279
season, or we're in Aries season. There are those
00:29:00.279 --> 00:29:03.400
influences, but your core remains the same. So
00:29:03.400 --> 00:29:05.940
I just wanted to share that because it's actually
00:29:05.940 --> 00:29:07.960
really cool to leverage. You can leverage human
00:29:07.960 --> 00:29:10.619
design, especially in corporate, which is really
00:29:10.619 --> 00:29:12.519
awesome. So anyways, that'll be like an additional
00:29:12.519 --> 00:29:14.759
nugget. That goes back to just understanding
00:29:14.759 --> 00:29:16.640
who you are and how you operate. And we all have
00:29:16.640 --> 00:29:19.019
our strengths and leaning into that versus trying
00:29:19.019 --> 00:29:22.420
to be someone or act totally different than you
00:29:22.420 --> 00:29:23.900
are. So I think that's where people get hung
00:29:23.900 --> 00:29:26.700
up on like, I've seen people be upset about like,
00:29:26.700 --> 00:29:28.700
you know, their disc assessments, like, no, it's
00:29:28.700 --> 00:29:30.819
okay. Hey, like it's who you are, it's your strengths.
00:29:30.920 --> 00:29:33.420
Like let's lean into that. This isn't like, oh,
00:29:33.480 --> 00:29:35.619
you have to be this to be in what position or
00:29:35.619 --> 00:29:38.019
whatever it is. So I love stuff that gives you
00:29:38.019 --> 00:29:40.400
insight on who you are and how you operate. And
00:29:40.400 --> 00:29:43.380
then just using that to, I don't know, be better
00:29:43.380 --> 00:29:45.140
essentially, or at least understand what the
00:29:45.140 --> 00:29:46.980
hell you're thinking about or why you're thinking.
00:29:47.710 --> 00:29:50.309
So is there anything else that as you've worked
00:29:50.309 --> 00:29:52.529
with these women through the last 7 -10 years
00:29:52.529 --> 00:29:55.509
that you see women get tripped on that if you
00:29:55.509 --> 00:29:57.210
think they pay a little bit more attention to,
00:29:57.369 --> 00:30:00.430
they would be able to make an impact and be better?
00:30:01.269 --> 00:30:04.329
Yes. I think this is actually kind of like a
00:30:04.329 --> 00:30:06.910
loaded thing to share. I, and I've been there
00:30:06.910 --> 00:30:08.829
like so many times where I felt like a victim
00:30:08.829 --> 00:30:11.529
and I was fucking pissed. Like, why is this taking
00:30:11.529 --> 00:30:14.470
so long? I've spent this money. I'm holding debt.
00:30:14.529 --> 00:30:16.210
I want to pay this off. I want to move forward.
00:30:16.250 --> 00:30:18.410
I'm doing everything. And I get really righteous
00:30:18.410 --> 00:30:20.410
about how things are going. And I think you can
00:30:20.410 --> 00:30:22.069
relate to this in corporate too. It's like, I
00:30:22.069 --> 00:30:23.710
broke my ass off. Where's the promotion? Very
00:30:23.710 --> 00:30:28.069
similar. And I think that when, especially as
00:30:28.069 --> 00:30:31.210
entrepreneurs or even in corporate too, when
00:30:31.210 --> 00:30:34.730
we put that pressure on, I need this to work
00:30:34.730 --> 00:30:38.619
and Once this works, then I will relieve X, Y
00:30:38.619 --> 00:30:42.700
and Z like retroactively. The hard truth to swallow
00:30:42.700 --> 00:30:45.019
is that there is an avoidance of responsibility
00:30:45.019 --> 00:30:48.599
that's not being looked at. So when I've looked
00:30:48.599 --> 00:30:50.799
at, let's say financially, if I had certain goals
00:30:50.799 --> 00:30:52.240
in my business where I'm like, I want to make
00:30:52.240 --> 00:30:54.279
X a month, I want to do X, Y and Z because then
00:30:54.279 --> 00:30:56.740
I can do A, B and C and that doesn't happen.
00:30:57.240 --> 00:30:58.960
If I actually look at A, B and C, it's like,
00:30:59.039 --> 00:31:01.160
well, Kayla, how can you better manage your finances?
00:31:01.519 --> 00:31:04.180
Like budget sheet this, learn about this conversation
00:31:04.180 --> 00:31:08.069
here. how can you actually look at the things
00:31:08.069 --> 00:31:10.950
that you can control, instead of thinking once
00:31:10.950 --> 00:31:14.069
you achieve X, Y, and Z, that's going to neutralize
00:31:14.069 --> 00:31:16.730
A, B, and C. That's not how it works. So there's
00:31:16.730 --> 00:31:19.529
always the irony is that there's actually always
00:31:19.529 --> 00:31:23.450
more that we can control. But sometimes we avoid
00:31:23.450 --> 00:31:25.869
looking at the thing because we just want the
00:31:25.869 --> 00:31:28.380
easy way out. And that's like, literally such
00:31:28.380 --> 00:31:30.359
a hard pill to swallow. I say that with compassion.
00:31:30.480 --> 00:31:33.460
I do it. I've done it. It's very human. But I
00:31:33.460 --> 00:31:35.019
think that that's something is like, where am
00:31:35.019 --> 00:31:37.059
I not looking that I'm avoiding that would actually
00:31:37.059 --> 00:31:39.160
make a difference now rather than waiting for
00:31:39.160 --> 00:31:41.000
this other thing to show up where I can't control
00:31:41.000 --> 00:31:43.440
the timing. Oh, that's so true. And it's funny
00:31:43.440 --> 00:31:45.539
you mentioned corporate. I think of that about
00:31:45.539 --> 00:31:48.000
women that I know who are stuck in corporate
00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:50.359
and they say they want to get out. They kind
00:31:50.359 --> 00:31:53.019
of sort of have a plan. But the things that they
00:31:53.019 --> 00:31:55.880
really need to do to be able to get out, they
00:31:55.880 --> 00:31:58.529
won't address. So it's like, do you really want
00:31:58.529 --> 00:32:01.289
out? Like, you know, the way it's not easy, not
00:32:01.289 --> 00:32:03.430
claiming that it's easy, but you just get stuck
00:32:03.430 --> 00:32:06.109
in and just kind of in that rut of well, I'm
00:32:06.109 --> 00:32:07.490
doing this, I'm just going to keep going until
00:32:07.490 --> 00:32:09.190
maybe something dramatic changes. Maybe it's
00:32:09.190 --> 00:32:12.210
not their decision to leave. So it's just interesting
00:32:12.210 --> 00:32:16.069
to understand that. Well, this is awesome. This
00:32:16.069 --> 00:32:19.049
has been super insightful. And we'll put everything
00:32:19.049 --> 00:32:21.730
from links in the show notes. But where's the
00:32:21.730 --> 00:32:24.710
quickest way to find out more about you and connect
00:32:24.710 --> 00:32:27.799
with you? You can find me on Instagram at Kayla
00:32:27.799 --> 00:32:31.380
G Mike podcast built for the edge. And we had
00:32:31.380 --> 00:32:33.099
a beautiful conversation on their bed seat, which
00:32:33.099 --> 00:32:35.200
I'm really excited to be sharing with everyone.
00:32:35.519 --> 00:32:37.180
I'm going to add, I can't remember the name of
00:32:37.180 --> 00:32:39.000
the episode off the top of my head, but the one
00:32:39.000 --> 00:32:41.579
that compares human design against, you know,
00:32:41.609 --> 00:32:43.910
the strength finders desk like awesome put that
00:32:43.910 --> 00:32:45.769
as an additional resource in the show notes.
00:32:46.089 --> 00:32:48.089
And I want to share another resource. This is
00:32:48.089 --> 00:32:51.430
called your business reoriented. So whether you're
00:32:51.430 --> 00:32:53.289
an entrepreneur or you're in corporate, this
00:32:53.289 --> 00:32:56.190
is there's these are five select podcast episodes
00:32:56.190 --> 00:32:58.869
from my channel that are really going to compliment
00:32:58.869 --> 00:33:00.849
the conversation we had today where what it looks
00:33:00.849 --> 00:33:03.670
like to orient yourself to create coherence,
00:33:03.710 --> 00:33:05.930
leveraging your human design and gene keys. So
00:33:05.930 --> 00:33:08.309
it's not just here's what Kayla did to do X,
00:33:08.309 --> 00:33:10.849
Y and Z and you do it too. It's very much How
00:33:10.849 --> 00:33:13.369
does this show up for you? Where are you standing?
00:33:13.950 --> 00:33:17.269
What needs to shift so that you can move forward
00:33:17.269 --> 00:33:19.470
and regulate your nervous system and build what
00:33:19.470 --> 00:33:21.329
it is that you want to build? So that will also
00:33:21.329 --> 00:33:23.589
be in the show notes as a gift for everyone.
00:33:24.569 --> 00:33:26.569
Awesome. Kayla, thank you so much for being here.
00:33:27.130 --> 00:33:29.630
Thank you, everyone. Kayla is the kind of guest
00:33:29.630 --> 00:33:31.609
that makes you want to close your laptop, take
00:33:31.609 --> 00:33:33.789
a breath and immediately delete three things
00:33:33.789 --> 00:33:37.400
off your to do list in the best way. If you want
00:33:37.400 --> 00:33:39.160
to connect with Kayla, I'm linking all of her
00:33:39.160 --> 00:33:41.240
info in the show notes. And if human design and
00:33:41.240 --> 00:33:44.279
G keys made you curious, start there. Don't overthink
00:33:44.279 --> 00:33:47.259
it. That's literally the point. And if you're
00:33:47.259 --> 00:33:49.039
a listener who's building confidence, presence,
00:33:49.059 --> 00:33:51.759
and a stronger leadership identity in real time,
00:33:52.119 --> 00:33:54.079
make sure you're following Loud and Lifted on
00:33:54.079 --> 00:33:56.160
Instagram and share this with a friend who's
00:33:56.160 --> 00:33:58.539
been feeling a little scattered lately. We all
00:33:58.539 --> 00:34:01.619
need the do less, say less reminder sometimes.
00:34:02.220 --> 00:34:04.700
Until next time, stay loud and stay lifted.

Human Design, Gene Keys & AI Business Mentor
Kehla G is a Human Design and Gene Keys–based business mentor who works at the intersection of strategy, decision-making, and AI. She helps entrepreneurs understand how their business is actually designed to function — and how to use AI as a tool for clarity, coherence, and intelligent execution rather than noise or automation for automation’s sake.
She’s the host of Built for the Edge, a top 2% globally ranked show with over 500 episodes, where she explores leadership, money, messaging, and capacity through a lens that goes far deeper than conventional business advice. Her conversations are known for precision, nuance, and cutting straight to the real constraint underneath growth plateaus and misalignment.
Kehla’s work is especially resonant for smart, capable entrepreneurs who’ve outgrown formulas and want their strategy, content, and decisions to be rooted in how they’re wired — not how someone else scaled. By integrating Human Design, Gene Keys, and AI, she offers a way of working that sharpens thinking, strengthens signal, and supports sustainable expansion without disconnecting from the human behind the business.




